Drone Registration in US soon

[Stambo]

This looks like it's going to happen quite fast, I wonder what the threshold will be as far as weight and size goes.
Starts at about 9:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohkIMnImhE8

[Graham Lawrie]

Oh dear:( has it got that bad mis-use in USA?

[Derek]

No surprise!

[Lee]

Airline pilot to tower.
"I have spotted a white drone out of my window."
Tower to Pilot.
"Oh that must be my neighbours. He has one of those."


How are they going to identify, whos drone it is, unless it crashes, and they can recover it.

[Graham Lawrie]

Tagged and licence number on "Drone"........i hate that word:)

[Lee]

Not easy to see a tag or licence number on a DJI phantom, from the cockpit of a commercial aircraft

[murankar]

Transponders is the only thing I can think of. Real airplanes use them so why not quads. The quads would show up as a dot with an ID. That id would be registered to a name. This deal is strictly a greed thing. I got to stop I am getting political.

[cml001]

Well here is the thing... They have determined that the vast majority of sightings are falsely reported.. So I don't think the #s are a prevalent as we are lead to believe... However I do see the safety concerns as airport airspace is concerned... But to register every muticopter is ridiculous... By that definition Id have to register my Blade nano.... It's completely unrealistic IMO... I don't see this working the way they intend.

[Stambo]

I cannot see how they will enforce this, are the police going to attend every call of a "drone" flying in a park just to see if it is registered or not.
It sounds like they hope to somehow bring down the aircraft, maybe with and RF jammer of some sort so they can read the ID or follow it home.
I wonder if they realise just how much work this will involve.
And who will pay for it, you the American model flyer that's who.
I hope this is not going to catch on in other countries.

[Marius]

I hope this is not going to catch on in other countries.

Hear hear!

[cml001]

Well, I'd say regulation will spread across the pond... How quickly.. I couldn't say. But honestly... Most "hobbyist" will not likely register IMO... Commercial users will have too. I don't understand how they plan to connect a sighted multicopter to a registered user unless the user crashes and loose his/her multicopter. Doesn't make sense.. I have seen a couple videos of devises that cut the TX connection and make the multicopter land... And others that just make it fall out of the sky... Which I my mind is way dangerous! I just hope that once this begins, they don't pull up to the field and start mess'n with planks & helis calling them "drones" like a few idiots I've seen/heard of.

[Stambo]

I am assuming that anything flown FPV or automated will be lumped in the same category whether it be fixed wing or rotor.
Surely anything flown LOS cannot be classed as a "drone"
And having an attached camera cannot be a criteria as you can hook a camera to almost anything and still fly LOS.

[pvolcko]

Oh dear:( has it got that bad mis-use in USA?

No. Not at all. There is a great deal of overreaction and sensationalizing going on here. Politicians are jumping at the chance to regulate, tax, permit, license, assess, impose, etc. because that is their wont.

As Clay mentioned, reviews of past claimed sightings have been largely debunked or had great doubt cast over most of them. There is no independent confirmation on almost any of them. And so far as I know there have been no confirmed impacts with a UAS.

Just a whole lot of paranoid worry.

I wonder if they realise just how much work this will involve.

No, they do not. If they did then they would not be even thinking of this in any serious way.

And who will pay for it, you the American model flyer that's who.

Oh, they are A.O.K with that. They loooooove making us citizens pay to encroach on our own freedoms, impose inane regulations, yadda yadda.

Surely anything flown LOS cannot be classed as a "drone"

Why? The rules for "drone" flights in the US require maintaining LOS at all times anyway. Their assumptions are that all "Drone" flights are in LOS, even if FPV is in use. FPV is not a criteria for being a registerable device, based on anything I've read or heard so far.


My take:
- The cost is going to be absurd. Not just to create the system, but to integrate it into the supply chains (assuming they're not going to go on the honor system), maintain it, and to, inevitably, integrate it into other databases and systems the government already uses.

- Even if they get all retail sales from US suppliers to be entered into the system, what about all the other types of acquisitions? Gifts? Private sales? Sales by overseas sources?

- What about those that build from parts?

- What is the registration attached to? Not necessarily physically, but what part of the "drone" is *the drone*? What if that part has to be replaced?

- What if a device falls under a limit for registration at time of purchase/sale, but is later upgraded?

- What if you dispose of the device? What if someone takes possession from the trash? Can an owner unregister?

- What if a device is stolen? Does the owner now have to report this to the feds?

- Why should a quad/hex/octo/etc. multi-rotor have to be registered but a helicopter or airplane not? They can all carry cameras, be flown in the wrong places or in an unsafe manner. Arguably the potential for damage or injury from a typical helicopter or airplane is much greater than with a typical quad.

- What about all those devices already owned by people? Do people need to register them too? If not, why not? If so, how?

- What's to stop a malicious person from registering a device in someone else's name?

- Will states or local law enforcement be able to access this database? What rules will govern that? Who will pay for that use by non-federal enforcement? What penalties will law enforcement suffer for using the data inappropriately?


That's all just off the top of my head. This is going to be a nightmare.

[cml001]

WERD!

[DOG]

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[Graham Lawrie]

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