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Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 1:17 am
by DOG
Hey everybody, my Tarot 450 has 45amp yep and 3s 3600KV motor which my timing is at 18 with the programming card. Now my Gaui X3 has 60amp yep 6s 1800KV motor. Will my timing be the same as the Tarot "18" or higher? According to the specs on the motor, the timing is 5 degrees. So what should my timing be set at or is there some method to figure out the timing on each motor. I can use the help please, thanks.

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 1:53 am
by cml001
I run mine at 12 on the 450... Similar setup on the 3s... Not sure on a 6s motor... It can vary.. Watch motor temp while u expiememt with it.

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 2:31 am
by DOG
The information i dug up is that 12 and down is in runner motors and 18 and up is out runner motors. I'm not sure if this is true but both of my motors are out runners. So i take it if my 450 is 18 should my timing be 24 or 30?

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 3:27 am
by cml001
Wow.. We talk'n bout ESC settings for motor timing right?

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 3:36 am
by murankar
Your timing should be set to the motor spec. My 2221-8 is set at 5° per scorpion. So set to spec.

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:02 am
by DOG
Ok then mine is 5 degree also. So i take it that i round up? My Yep timing reads, 0/6/12/18/24/30 degrees.

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:28 am
by murankar
Yeah , just get as close as you can.

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:35 am
by DOG
Thank you very much murankar for that advice 8-) . That should help me out big time.

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:30 am
by Graham Lawrie
+1 on what Matthias said, always to the motor spec:)

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:42 am
by Derek
Some of the Chinese motors that I use don't specify a timing number. How do I find out what that number is?

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 11:37 pm
by cml001
here's the formula to determine PWM
PWM = KV x Voltage x Poles / 20
Soo.. my Align 450MX 3400kv looks like this
PWM=3400 x 11.1 x 6 / 20 = 11322 which is about 11-12 KHz

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 11:50 pm
by Derek
Thanks very much for that.

That equation should be a sticky on here

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 11:52 pm
by DOG
Yes, thank you for the formula cml001. I'll will drop that information into my notes.

Re: Timing question.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:30 am
by murankar
Derek,

Trial and error. If its am hk-#### motor then it more than likely is a scorpion clone. If that's the case start at 5°. You should see a difference in motor power. The more power you feel the closer to being right you are. If it feels weak then it might be off.