Dustins Flight Training/Log

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:51 pm

They are bloody lethal, that was also the HS too fast and lost one of the links, I had been on forum to get advice too, dropped the throttle curve quite a bit but it still went haywire... Now it's still in the pond.... Lol

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:24 pm

Hey Dustin, have you sorted this heli out yet..?

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:26 pm

Last I heard from him, after the helicopter smacked the wall, he damaged a main gear. He did order replacements and a swash leveler. He was waiting for them to be delivered.

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:34 pm

Well I do hope he spends a great deal of time getting that thing mechanically 100%. It might not be the wall it hits next time....keep us updated Dustin

concept30 · Post by **concept30** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:36 pm

its still on the bench, i have a leveler for the swash, but its still getting bench tested 100% i tried giving up but my good friend Derek said not too so im still trying to work on it

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:57 pm

Dustin....I'm not sure what else I can do to help you out here. You send me your helicopter and I thought it only needed to be "mechanically setup". Turns out that all the linkages were bent, the blades were chipped, you had radial bearings in the place of thrust bearings, the tail rotor case was broke, the flybar was bent, the autorotation gear was missing teeth, and there were other issues as well. I spent a bit more than $100, of my money, to repair it and I shipped it back to you. You knew that you would need to rebind the helicopter to your DX6i and you knew that the settings in your DX6i would need to be adjusted so that everything was working properly. Then you try to fly it and your broke some pieces again. I understand that you want to fly the helicopter but the helicopter needed to be setup properly.

Then I get these text messages from you saying, "Maybe I should give up on flying. I'm not having any luck."

I reply, "Sure you could give up but it probably won't do you any good. You haven't had good luck yet because you were trying to fly your helicopter without a proper setup. So...set it up properly and then fly."

You reply, "OK"

I reply, "Any and every aspect of rc flying comes down to "practice, practice, practice". We all crash. We all break parts. Ya just gotta step back, take a deep breath, and start over."

You reply, "Yea well I never flew it cause it kept messing up."

This is here is the "long and short of it", Dustin....that helicopter kept messing up because it wasn't setup properly yet. Yes, I repaired the damages but the adjustments in the tx needed to be made. The swash needed to be leveled. The gyro needed to be in HH mode. etc, etc. No one on this forum, nor any other forum in the world, is gonna be able to help you unless you are willing to help yourself. I see, in your previous post, you said that you have the leveler for the swash but it's getting bench tested 100%. Ok...that's a start. You need to make sure that the swash plate is level at low, mid, and high stick before you even try to spin the blades again. Unplug the 3 motor wires and leave them unplugged until you are sure that the swash is level, the mixing arms are level, and the pitch is set to +/- 10 degrees. If these items aren't setup properly and you try to fly that helicopter again, I can assure you that your results are not going to be positive.

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:22 pm

Dustin, you have an abundant amount of help at your disposal, not just on the forum, but theres heaps of YT videos to help you out too.

what you need to do is find a really good video to follow on YT, and make sure you do all the mechanical checks/setups properly, DO NOT take short cuts... if you need further help then come on the forum, theres always someone on to help you. Derek has helped you loads and spent a small fortune on your heli. theres only so much one can do though. you need to LISTEN to what people are telling you...

if the swash needs leveling then the chances are the servos may need set to 90 degrees too, which is where you should be starting from. sounds like you need to start from scratch anyway. before you start... SAFETY FIRST. remove 2 of the 3 wires off your motor...

make sure your transmitter is setup properly. the blade 450 3D manual is a good starting point.

find a good YT video that you can watch and pause at will to guide you through the setup process....

one last thing..... DO NOT GIVE UP.... you can do it..

concept30 · Post by **concept30** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:01 pm

Thanks Tony that's very nice of you to say, the heli is still being bench tested as all my good friends here told me to do, I notice the tail isn't reacting good when giving input, I check you tube later on tonight

concept30 · Post by **concept30** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:35 pm

I seen there's tons of people with tail problems on the blade 450 3d

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:52 pm

people have many problems with there helis, its all part of the fun and learning curve of the hobby i guess. but once you get your heli setup right the rewards are great, loads of fun flying to be had...

concept30 · Post by **concept30** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:55 am

Nothing to report, I'm just keeping you guys up to date, my 450 is still being bench tested

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:49 am

That's good, keep up the tests until your 100% sure it's mechanically correct..

Are you still having tail issues? Can you make a lazy susan platform, well worth the effort mind and not hard to make...

concept30 · Post by **concept30** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:17 am

I would have to make a parts list to make a lazy Susan

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:03 pm

I got my lazy susan off eBay, made of wood, then added the wooden clamp to hold heli down... Didn't take much doing really Dustin, but I tell you it was well worth the effort. I got the idea off Derek..

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:32 pm

I have shown Dustin my gyro test stand with the Lazy Susan. I have shown Dustin where to get a Lazy Susan. It really is a fantastic idea and a useful tool. Just be sure to keep the bearings well lubricated and the stand will do it's job very well.

concept30 · Post by **concept30** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:32 pm

Yea tony thanks, I will check YouTube to see how to make one thanks alot

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:31 am

Check this out Dustin, it's my experience with tail problems on my 450. Shows a close up of the lazy susan too..

http://youtu.be/PYaG8XYwe2s

concept30 · Post by **concept30** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:19 pm

Great Video Tony, THank you so very much, I just need time to go to home Depot to buy a lazy susan and build one so that i can test my tail out.

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:19 pm

No probs mate, hope it helps, you can see I had tail issues, but easy to fix

concept30 · Post by **concept30** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:56 pm

i decieded to go Flybarless, i hope this doesnt piss anyone off, I bought FBL head shaft swash and main gear, next is a ar7200bx, i heard good things about it, IF anyone has one laying around, I could trade it for my GP790

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