Thinking about getting another mini quad

[Derek]

Right now, I have a ZMR250 with ImmersionRC FPV and I love it. It flies so well! However, I'm thinking about getting a second quad and I'm absolutely torn about what frame I'd like to get. I'd just like to get the some thoughts from you guys and maybe I can make a decision about what to get. Here are my thoughts...

1. I was thinking about getting a second ZMR250 with an identical setup. The one that I have was an easy build and it just works.

2. thinking about a Fossils Gravity 180. It's got a very unique look and no one around here has one (that I know of)

3. Maybe a Holybro Shuriken 180 BNF, from Gearbest. A buddy of mine has one and it's considerably lighter than my ZMR. His is very floaty and very speedy. A 3s pack on his 180 is quite fast but a 4S pack really turns the Shuriken into a screamin' demon.

4. ZMR also makes a 180 class quad. It's a compact frame and looks just like my ZMR250, just a bit smaller.

Now, I need the new quad to be 4s capable.

What do you guys think? Maybe you have a different suggestion for something that is 4s capable...possibly a bit unique.

[DOG]

Hey there Derek. Here's a 4s quad that might interest you. Check it out. http://www.hobbywow.com/en-flypro-xjagu ... 242652.htm I was looking at this one http://www.hobbywow.com/en-kingkong-q90 ... 243225.htm

[KevG]

Personally Derek I would go for the Gravity 210 FSGX, Flies beautifully but it is a tight build, but not as tight as the 180,

[Derek]

Thanks Kev! Based on the pics that I've seen of the 210...I dunno...that frame just looks "wrong" (my opinion, of course).

I think I've made up my mind. I'm thinking I'm going to get the yellow Gravity 250. I've found a supplier here in the states that has that frame for $80 here:

http://www.custommultirotors.com/produc ... avity-250/

I think I read that this company is in Kentucky, which is only 500ish miles straight south of me. I imagine the shipping would be rather quick.

Now, because my SunnySky 2207-2100kv motors are working so well for me on my ZMR, I'm thinking about using the same motors and DEFINITELY the same Little Bee 20amp esc. Same ImmersionRC video tx. The flight controller is now something I need to shop for. I have two Naze32 rev5 flight controllers (one on my ZMR and one on my Delta Wing). The rev5 is no longer available (outdated, lol). I've heard some rotten things about the rev6, so I'm thinking I'll need an all new flight controller. What would you guys recommend in the flight controller department?

[KevG]

Hes the USA distributor mate and a bloody nice guy, make sure you get a 250-22 frame as the stock 250 frame only takes 1806 motors the 250-22 takes 22xx size

[Stambo]

Go for an F3 flight controller Derek, that's what my next one will be, they are much more powerful than the Naze32.
I can't tell you which one but if you check the reviews on whatever you look at, you will figure it out.
They still run Cleanflight/Betaflight so not too much to learn.
I would think about some 2300kv motors rather than the sunnyskies too.
And some newer version ESCs that support Dshot/multishot or better.
The tech moves so quickly that what we bought a year ago is old news now.

[Derek]

Thanks for that tip, Kev! I'll be sure to check on that

Stambo..thanks for your advice too...as always! I'll look for an F3 fc. I've heard that Dshot is the "new thing". I don't know what it means, lol, but I've heard about it. Im so outdated

[KevG]

Furious fpv is my recommendation for fc mate, pdb is inclusive in it so lots of less wiring and you can run dshot easy with it using online info and a little mapping, also the new emax bullet escs are dshot ready light and small, the pic is a 20a and the 20p is 20mm round ish

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[Derek]

That's incredible! I'll look into that. Thanks Kev!

[Graham Lawrie]

Fossil all the way Derek the frame is virtually indestructible:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REB498R ... freload=10

[Derek]

We were talking about motors above....Stambo recommended 2300kv motors. Would that be 1804, 1806, or something in the 22xx range? Just as he also said above...what we bought last year is out of date already, and I'm "out of the loop" when it comes to quads, anyway, lol.

Actually....and I hate to ask this but....can you guys just get me a parts list? Keep in mind, I'm not filthy rich (not even close to being "rich"), so I can't afford "THE BEST" but a recommended/suggested parts list would be amazing....motors, escs, flight controller, pdb....

[Graham Lawrie]

I would not worry about out of date Derek, everything i flew last year is super fast:) Things are just getting smaller and lighter:)

What frame are you thinking of?

[Derek]

As for the frame, Graham...I am 50/50. I'm very much wanting the Fossils Gravity 250 (the yellow one). All the Fossil frames are just amazing looking to me but I really like the yellow Gravity 250. Kev mentioned, above, that I should get the 250-22 because that frame allows room for the 22xx sized motors. Unfortunately, the US supplier doesn't seem to carry the 250-22...only the 250 which has room for the 18xx motors. I'm not sure how I feel about this. Are there 18xx motors that can run on 4S? The 18xx motors that I've seen recently are only rated for 2-3S. This kinda makes me want the 280, which has room for the 22xx motors and 6" props and 4S but isn't available in the yellow.....bummed.

on the other end, the other 50% that I'm thinking about is the Holybro Shuriken 180, from Gearbest.com. My buddy Mike (member name: ElementalSpark) has the Shuriken 180. It comes as a DSMX BNF for less than $200. It comes with motors, esc's, fc, fpv, camera, everything installed with four 4" props. Mike has given his Shuriken 180 some pretty good crashes and it still comes back for more. He runs it on 3S and it really looks like a great flyer. Then he straps a 4S pack to it and the lil sucker SCREAMS across the field.

So, here's my dilemma...do I get the Fossils frame, which is probably the coolest looking frame I've ever seen, and spend a decent amount of money for the parts, pieces, and components? Or do I get the Shuriken 180, which comes BNF, for less than $200?

I've seen several videos of the Fossil frame taking crashes. I've seen Mike crash his Shuriken many times....so I know that both frames can take a beating.

What to choose? What to choose? (I can't take the pressure....where are my knitting needles? lol)

[Graham Lawrie]

Hi Derek the 250 yellow frame is what i have:)

I have a build thread on here.
I upgraded for smaller ESC,s but it has loads of room but motor choices are limited, hence the 280.
That said mine flies way too fast for me.
I upgrades to tbs Triumph antennas, but it is solid.
The motors have fallen off and the frame remains the same:)

[KevG]

Hey Derek if I was to build a 1806 bird o would still use the escs and FC I have already listed and go for the Xnova 1806 motors as they give great power for the size and can handle 4s no problem,

[KevG]

Rick has the 250-22 drop him a pm on the Facebook group mate I'm sure he would sort it out for you.