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Lee wrote:I think for what it does, the price isn't bad.
I mean the top gopro camera is $500 just for a camera.
This has a tonne of innovations on it.
If i had the cash, i wouldn't hesitate to get one.
umm.....the top gopro I can take diving,parasailing,dirtbike riding......ect,ect. This thing well............. it has a single use....... No thanks.

Its a neat product but way to expensive for what it is. It's the lightbridge technology that pushes it out of the realm of a normal user. Do you really need to see your live video in 1080p resolution? It's a nice to have feature but hard to justify as a must have at that price.
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I also have the top Go Pro. I use it for everything.
I wasn't trying to compare the two, just show the cost of things.
If you were to build a pretty decent quad, with gps, and put a Go Pro on it, you would be getting up there in price.
If you compare this to say a DJI s1000 with all the kit on it to fly a DSLR, its a bargain :D
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First things first, the camera on this kit is well over what gopro is at the moment. Camparing a gopro to this camera is like compairing a gopro to a board camera. A gopro with all the same featuress would be super expensive. The video side on this thing is impressive to say the least. The one thing that really impressed me is the camera ability to remove the curvature from the wide angle. The rest of the camera for the most part is on par with the gopro 4

Next the .dng format is Adobe's digital negative format. It makes the image compatible across Adobe's creative suite series. Its the same as Woking in raw but in adobe.

Light bridge is more versitile than just for feeding live 1080p video, but I think that's what its main intent is for.

At the moment this is very nitch. The cost is going to drive the USA market away from it, due to the whole FAA bs going on.
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I saw that Hobby King is going to carry this.....for $2900. WOW! What a price tag!!!
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Lee wrote:If you were to build a pretty decent quad, with gps, and put a Go Pro on it, you would be getting up there in price.
If you compare this to say a DJI s1000 with all the kit on it to fly a DSLR, its a bargain :D
Yes if you built one yes the price would be up there but it would be more versatile and have more uses.
The camera in this thing is no where near DSLR quality though just comparing the image sensor size it would lose. If I strapped on a full movie production quality 4k camera to a quad it would be a bargain to. But we are comparing things that aren't even in the same class. A gopro is it's closest competition. The gopro I dont just have a flying camera. I can take it anywhere. If they dropped this camera and had a gopro mount and dropped the light bridge stuff this would be a cool quad. And the price would have to drop drastically.
murankar wrote:First things first, the camera on this kit is well over what gopro is at the moment.
How is it over a hero 4 black maybe I am missing something? I didnt study it in detail just did a quick look at the specs. The gopro will shoot a higher frame rate in many modes. What feature are you liking that the gopro doesnt have? I havent seen anything on this camera that puts it over a gopro. At best its on par in some areas and behind in others. Gopro has a mode that is very much like raw mode and is compatible with all the editors.
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I hate the the wide angle view in some footage. Their is a time when that wide angle effect is cool but there are times when it kills the footage. With the dji camera you can get rid of this in the camera. It saves you time in post. Being a minor photographer I make every attempt to get what I want in the camera, it just saves me time in the end. I have not heard about gopro being able to do this as of yet.

Just keep in mind this is just my opinion based off my photography style. I know video is different but in the end it still almost the same. Shoot footage, transfer footage, post then finalize.

In photography the ideal file to work with is raw. The problem with raw is that it needs converted to work with it in most photo editors. Granted it does not take long to convert in adobe bridge but if you can do it in camera then got something going. Especially since they chose adobe's format. Currently adobe is running the scene with photography. Do I agree with it, no but it is what it is. I like open source stuff but I have Adobe CS5 Web Designer student license.

In defense if gopro users; this new quad just illiminated you folks. Well until someone designs a gimbal for it.
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murankar wrote:I hate the the wide angle view in some footage. Their is a time when that wide angle effect is cool but there are times when it kills the footage. With the dji camera you can get rid of this in the camera. It saves you time in post. Being a minor photographer I make every attempt to get what I want in the camera, it just saves me time in the end. I have not heard about gopro being able to do this as of yet.
You usually buy a gopro for the wide angle view. I guess for me if I was worried about that I would build a rig with a DLSR that allowed me to swap in a lens that I wanted for a particular shot. I'd probably be pretty close on price too. The DJI has limitations and you will bump into those just as you will with the gopro no single lens is perfect for all shots. I don't see that as an advantage or disadvantage. I consider the lens a null point when comparing the two. Neither is leaps and bounds better then the other just different. Now being able to shoot 1080P at 120fps that IS an advantage for the gopro.
murankar wrote: In photography the ideal file to work with is raw. The problem with raw is that it needs converted to work with it in most photo editors. Granted it does not take long to convert in adobe bridge but if you can do it in camera then got something going. Especially since they chose adobe's format. Currently adobe is running the scene with photography. Do I agree with it, no but it is what it is. I like open source stuff but I have Adobe CS5 Web Designer student license.
Protune on the gopro does a pretty good job of allowing editing post production if you want to do that. There is also some raw format that I am hearing about on the hero 4 that I don't know much about and haven't looked into.
murankar wrote: In defense if gopro users; this new quad just illiminated you folks. Well until someone designs a gimbal for it.
Yea seems like a dumb decision by DJI unless they intend to get into the action cam buisness. I dont see many people wanting to invest a bunch of money into a proprietary camera system with such limited uses. But I could be wrong time will tell and the success of this quad will be the proof. I however predict a drastic price drop in the near future.
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Lenses are everything to me. No two lenses are the same. If I could afford sigma for my DSLR i would have a number of them. The lense will determine what your final output. Unless you have a sharp or tack sharp lense it does not matter how big the file is.
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xokia wrote:Yes if you built one yes the price would be up there but it would be more versatile and have more uses.
The camera in this thing is no where near DSLR quality though just comparing the image sensor size it would lose. If I strapped on a full movie production quality 4k camera to a quad it would be a bargain to. But we are comparing things that aren't even in the same class. A gopro is it's closest competition. The gopro I dont just have a flying camera. I can take it anywhere. If they dropped this camera and had a gopro mount and dropped the light bridge stuff this would be a cool quad. And the price would have to drop drastically.
I think we have our wires crossed :D
I'm not trying to compare the products, and what they can do.
All I'm trying to point out, is the pricing.
GoPro Takes video and pictures. $500
Inspire1 does this and flies, with many functions. $2900 or 6 gopros LOL :D
Although it's out of my price range, I think for what it can do, you would have to spend a lot more money to build something comparable.

If you want to see all the features, here is the official launch video. You need to skip through a lot to get to the good bits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TznaDRR ... 6qEG-WHadA
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Lee wrote:
xokia wrote:Yes if you built one yes the price would be up there but it would be more versatile and have more uses.
The camera in this thing is no where near DSLR quality though just comparing the image sensor size it would lose. If I strapped on a full movie production quality 4k camera to a quad it would be a bargain to. But we are comparing things that aren't even in the same class. A gopro is it's closest competition. The gopro I dont just have a flying camera. I can take it anywhere. If they dropped this camera and had a gopro mount and dropped the light bridge stuff this would be a cool quad. And the price would have to drop drastically.
I think we have our wires crossed :D
I'm not trying to compare the products, and what they can do.
All I'm trying to point out, is the pricing.
GoPro Takes video and pictures. $500
Inspire1 does this and flies, with many functions. $2900 or 6 gopros LOL :D
Although it's out of my price range, I think for what it can do, you would have to spend a lot more money to build something comparable.

If you want to see all the features, here is the official launch video. You need to skip through a lot to get to the good bits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TznaDRR ... 6qEG-WHadA
I paid $440 for my hero 4 black. But even at full retail I guess I don't see the value in the inspire. I agree it's a cool product. Just seems to miss the mark at their current price point. Their camera IMO does not beat the gopro feature wise or image quality. I'd rather see the inspire with a gopro gimbal and no light bridge for 1/2 the cost. Let's just assume that price for the DJI camera costs the same as the gopro. Why would you buy an additional camera with a single use? The articulating arms is cool that would be a cool feature to have as well as the fully controllable gimble. Give it to me in a gopro version and I might be a customer. Otherwise I wouldn't buy just on that fact alone.

I guess I look at things a little different if I spending that kind of money I want to maximize the amount of use I get out of it. Either that or the camera should be so great that it stomps any other action cam on the market. That's what that camera is just another action cam. Seems like it's already a small market an they are even going after a even smaller market segment. What I haven't figured out is who is that market segment? If your a professional photographer a 550 with a dlsr is a better bet. If your a novice a phantom with gopro produces more value and arguably equal image quality. I can shoot some pretty cool slow motion shots shooting at 120fps on the gopro.

Just a different view I suppose.
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I agree with you, that there should be a gimble mount for a go pro.
Seeing as its removable, I don't think it will be long.
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No it wont but the question remains will the cable setup be compatible and if its not will you be able to change it out. I hope DJI did not pull an IBM move on this with proprietary stuff.
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Batteries are proprietary, as usual. Looks like a proprietary Tx is required too. Gimbal motors should be able to be powered as any other motor, though, so at worst you're having a hack a connector. If they went with a proprietary connector and will not sell pigtails with the connector(s) on them then that is bad news.
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pvolcko wrote:Batteries are proprietary, as usual. Looks like a proprietary Tx is required too. Gimbal motors should be able to be powered as any other motor, though, so at worst you're having a hack a connector. If they went with a proprietary connector and will not sell pigtails with the connector(s) on them then that is bad news.
Yea I dont care for my proprietary battery on my phantom 2 either. People are finding ways around the battery issue. TX on the phantom can be changed by swapping in a normal RX since it uses normal flight controller. I dont know what the inspire uses but I would assume you could swap an RX in if you desired. Gimbal seems to be the sticking point if they went with proprietary connectors like you say. Hopefully they release a version that allows other gimbals.
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I think the price is not to bad. It is not much more than I paid for my Agile when taking into consideration all
the electronics and the things that have gone wrong with it so I would call that a real bargain. Like some one
said £30 on HK in the New Year.
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Keep in mind that there is more than a camera and ligjtbridge on this thing that make it a $2800 rig. Yeah the arms articulate up and down, cool and it has all the other features that one expects in a quad. One other feature that is unique to this quad is the sonar location feature. Itbwill hover itself if gps is lost. Its the only quad out there at this time that can hover itself without GPS. This opens up some better indoor video footage. I can defiantly see more factory type promo videos being done. I know the FAA is stopping that stuff but the possibility is there in other parts of the world. Yes other quads can do it but how much excessive movements are in those videos now.

Makes me wounded, how would a snow covered area on a sunny day effect the sonar?
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A bug? Noooo. Can't be.
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